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  1. jayr3d

    jayr3d Regular

    you didnt get what i was tryna say.
     
  2. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    That was my point. Given how many times BP has consistently ignored the feedback of players (moon or most event threads for that matter) I'm not sure getting a crafting 2.0 feedback thread would do anything other than frustrate players again.

    I honestly don't know if the dev's care what players want, if they do, they're doing a pi** poor job of showing it.
     
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  3. geoff1

    geoff1 Someday Author

    when i started crafting was for better items now all i do melt
     
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  4. geoff1

    geoff1 Someday Author

    better low level items but u need to pay to upgrad
     
  5. Szmaciak

    Szmaciak Junior Expert

    It WAS in game from beta to 2013 year when BP make map to mini map in left upper corner. For short time at minimap we had names of others players in group but BP about a week later after put this in game, deleted this option because names and letterss were too unreadable (for BP of course, not for us).
    You can still can see names at middle version of minimap (use M second time)
    Well, at forum always moderators told us that if BP changed, deleted something than they NEVER put it back... (look animations of DK, teleports to PW at minimap, 2 versions of Khaly and easy enter to her Elysium).
     
  6. O'rly? Pics or it never happened.
     
  7. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    Will DSO get around to fixing the broken achievements after the Winter Event is over?
    The credit for the Witch Chaser set is still broken, and items for other Heroic Deeds do not drop anymore.
    No one has reported Automechanic Steam Propulsion or Lost Legacy drops for ages.
    The Temple Guardian and Dark Corruption sets dropped off the radar, like the rest of the Defender set, that never happened.
     
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  8. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    I would like to see a pic of a recent Legacy drop from the cubes. I was lucky enough to get a few of those pieces shortly after cubes were introduced. Since then I have opened in the area of 5000 cubes and seen nothing. Also haven't heard of anyone getting a piece. Just some proof that they are still in the game from someone and ill accept my bad luck and stop wondering if this is another unconfirmed bug.
     
  9. wangwang

    wangwang Active Author

    my friend got 2 adornments in past 2 weeks
     
  10. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    I really want to believe a "my friend" reference, but would prefer first hand proof.
     
  11. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    Same here. I have had them dropping in the past, maybe 8-9 times. But I'm still 4/5. And I havent seen one since r155 even though I open lots of cubes everyday.

    Not even mentioning the enchants of the items from cube. Complete junk comparing to items from Fatal, despite cubes being from there. Just a little bit of glyphs, and fair amount of gems.

    Haruki. Last question to you, for the year at least :)

    QUESTION: Why does mage have the lowest base HP of all classes, as well as the lowest HP modifier on the items? I'm not claiming anything is wrong, I just want to hear the post r155 reasoning.

    And Happy New Year)
     
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  12. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I got 3 pieces of the lost legacy set today on my dwarf when I opened 400+ cubes that I had been stashing for months - gun, amulet and ring.

    Kind of disappointing that they are still level 45 and not level 50...
     
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  13. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    OK, consigned to be appalled at my luck then:(
     
  14. EhtovK

    EhtovK Old Hand

    I know the feel, I can also confirm they drop, my couple got the Agathon's Lost Amulet around the time when R158 came in, I open way more cubes but no luck.

    Agreed, this leads me to a question for Haruki: Is this set going to be tweaked/scaled to our current level cap?, I consider this matter is kinda urgent, just kinda because their drop is..., scarce..., but still urgent because you already talked about the next content expansion, which leads me to think the level cap might be increased once more.

    This means the situation with the cubes grows ill, here's why: No interesting uniques, lots of them have outdated values and bonuses, and only work while you find something better, and nowadays it's very likely to find something much better thanks to the Parallel world, with some grinding of course, the set bonuses are also not attractive to a lot of people I've talked to, and getting all 5 to get that juicy 50% more HP, I think Balor and Nefertari might turn to Agathon's faith before one of us can get those, and still wearing all 5 will leave you with a lot of weaknesses compared to other sets or good combinations of legendaries.

    This leaves us to check on the rest of things that drop from the cubes, chance for 1k andermant, extraordinary and legendary items, all those, as stated before, doesn't scale to the difficulty of PW where you obtained the cubes, so all extraordinaries go to the smelting furnace, and in around 100 cubes, you get 4 to 6 legendaries, approximately, if I farm in the PW I'll get more than twice of that number of legendaries in the time it takes me to stack 100 cubes, with better posibilities for enchantments on those items. The 1k andermant drops so rarely that I've personally never seen it, I've also checked videos from people opening insane amounts of cubes without getting those 1k anders, so, again, I'll have farmed more than 1k anders by the time I stockpile 100 cubes again.

    Last thing would be the gems, and these ones are, for me, the only decent rewards that the cubes give nowadays, though only once I've got a polished gem, they still help a lot in the long run, but, one of how many possible rewards is this?, sometimes you even have bad luck strikes and get very few gems from a bunch of 100 cubes.

    To be clear, the cubes are not good as they are right now and only stand out for one of its drops, the gems, aside from that, in my humble opinion, they need a rework, since they might be the only thing keeping some of us buying premium when we can, why so?, because at some point in the game you get a toon decent enough to spare the anders if you screw up and die inside an event map or a regular map, or just decide to re-enter, and in more and more mini-events the premium is not usable anyway, the experience bonus is pretty much useless when you hit the level cap and the rest of its features are just not interesting enough, so it's starting to look not appealing for some people, including me, and I'm not even close to a high end-game player. Also notice that there are people like me that only buy premium when possible and nothing else.

    Just a humble opinion and a small question, have a nice day.
     
  15. jayr3d

    jayr3d Regular

    what are THOSE!
     
  16. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    Will the Dev's ever consider reworking the uniques to make them useful beyond melting?

    Sadly most of us that have played more than 1 day know what to expect when we see the bright yellow light appear during a drop, but that is just another example that makes me wonder if the dev's have every played this or any other game.

    I know that most of the drops are junk (unique or not) but given how rarely a unique drops shouldn't it be somewhat useful? There is something like 100 uniques that can drop (not including the bought kind) and maybe there are 10 or so that might possibly help a characters build.
     
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  17. pydragons

    pydragons Padavan

    Since the beginning of the game, uniques have extremely low drop chance. Most unique items require you to collect the whole set to be of a viable use. There is a huge portion of all these uniques that went totally useless because new uniques were made. Many uniques were made but no one used the full potential of them.

    Nowadays we have few unique sets with what appears to be a really awesome set effect. Yet no one will ever see these effects because you can hardly drop the whole set. These set effects are and will be seen by the developers only.

    We need a new system to obtain uniques. Time based, andermant based, collectable based. Combine them however you want. But I don't like the fact that I must farm an impossible RNG with only a hope.
    PW fragment shop was amazing idea, too bad they reworked it... what kind of design is that. I mean, you design so you can implement it right. Measure twice, cut once. With the first PW fragment shop, we could give our lives to farm fragments and we could buy uniques. They could even put broken-unique-piece, where you buy the parts with fragments and craft them with andermant. Isn't this a win-win state for both parties?

    Give us a better way to get uniques and accept the profit.
     
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  18. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    There are 18 uniques for low level characters that serve absolutely no purpose. Even if one were to drop, there isn't a single one better than an average exo piece.

    Then you finally get to the deep sea set. By the time you are able to find any of the pieces, you don't need them or even want them.

    Now you move onto the regular bosses like gorga, herald and sigris. How often do these uniques drop and by the time they do, who uses them?

    The first usable set is the Keens (or your character version) and how many people actually find all 3?

    Then comes the kings set or destructor set. Has anyone seen a full set of these ever?

    Now there is the balor set, but does anyone have it or want it?

    There is the temple set which isn't horrible but I've never heard of anyone finding or using it.

    Of course there is the ammon set (newly reworked) and still no one wants this.

    Next you move onto the premium only cube set, which of course never drops, but even if it did, would anyone want it?

    Finally you have the event uniques which for the most part are the only ones usable, the witch, red/yellow ess or dragan come to mind.

    Granted, event uniques should be better than those that just drop, but that doesn't mean the non event uniques should be worthless or only good for melting.

    I would think that someone who played a game or two in their life would understand the need to have rewards worth the effort of finding them.

    Yes, uniques should be hard to find, that is what makes them unique. But they also should be worth finding.
     
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  19. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Then there are the three new unique elemental pair sets from the PWs. Some of those items are actually really nice. The Amulet from Arachna, the decoration from Grimmag, the shield from Heredur... all better than average legendaries. The other parts of those sets and the set bonuses are not bad either, but are more "niche" pieces/sets as opposed to something everyone wants. The problem is that those items drop in the 3 tiers and they don't become really good until tier 3 and farming the parts or farming the final pieces are all tough to do (over 50 runs of Heredur in the past week and no shield/helm).
     
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  20. Szmaciak

    Szmaciak Junior Expert

    What for? Yogo knows very good what about i write and if he would want than he can confirm it. This is post to him, no to you moderator. Yes it HAPPENED. Jut use others languages than English and look what write others moderators who are a part of this same team than you. All work for BP and all write things about changes in game, devs etc. Do you see my sig? Did you know about it? What now, tell me that never happened because you are not this moderator who send question and put answer about it at forum? This is a problem with English people, try look for informations not only in one place, not only in your language.
    And I pictured it to you too - read whole text, this in brackets too. Do you see those stuff in game? Back to old, wanted by gamers not only English? Gamers after changes made a proposals about put back old things and always it was ignored and yes, moderators always tell players what I wrote.
    Even back to city and mount at this same time are DIFFERENT now and it is strange exception I saw here once from beta time.
    English moderators are little % who don't discuss with players at forum about their "wisdom" about game, make OT and try make players nervous and stupid for another opinion, and for me it is GOOD. But when some try replay to me like you - for me it is not necessary, provocation, OT - just think first that you are not only one moderator of DSO.
    And last thing, please don't start write to me that this is English forum - this topic is for ALL nations play in game, we are asked for write here in English. Here are informations from others forums. I don't like that this topic is spam and answers from players not from only Haruki and Greg and I try don't use it that way like some "guru" who must answer for every questions put here but when I answered one thing that I know for sure about game I don't expect from moderator polemize in that way about one sentence... With others writers too.
    If you made decision write here why not in more help way but in way to try show me that I'm lie because you don't know about answers from others moderators about this?
    You and other just can confirm or not information about mini map and names at it, this is goal, not another thing from my post.
     
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