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  1. rusher

    rusher Someday Author

    Hi
    I got the following item for many days now. I used search engines to hopefully find a result on how to use this item or find other stuff correlated to it. All I know is, that it's part of an item that gave you extra movement speed in town. However that's the only facts I could find... So I continued playing in the anticipation to find out more about it ingame. Unfortunately I still don't know how to do anything with it or how to find other stuff let alone knowing what I have to find. That's why I ask for help about this:
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    Thanks for help.
     
  2. Anyki

    Anyki User

    Hi rusher, and welcome to the forums.

    This item is one of 4 items that are put together on the workbench and crafted to make a Fairy Summoning Wand, which increases travel speed in urban areas by 25%. If you are curious what these items look like, there's some screenshots in the DSO Guide.

    Cheers,
    Anyki
     
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  3. rusher

    rusher Someday Author

    ok thanks! so I just have to wait and hope to get it.
     
  4. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    And unless you are crazy lucky, you will be waiting and hoping for a long time. The "Flawless Dimond" is incrediably rare and if I were you, I wouldn't keep the other three items until you get the dimond. They will just waste space.
     
  5. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    You don't have to be lucky to get all 4 parts.
    I will tell you the trick. Collect the daily chests and dont waste them until you collect something like 50+.
    Then open them all ... the probability to get all 4 parts is almost 80%.
    Since I spotted this thread I went to one of my characters (which only collects dailies) ... and made screenshots (before and after opening the chests).
    I was correct ... I got all of them :D

    Before
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    After
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    This time it took me more than 50 chests but sometimes it takes less than 50.
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2015
  6. pydragons

    pydragons Padavan

    Why do you think the probability is higher when opening 50~ at once?
     
  7. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    When the probability of getting gilded clover is higher?
    When you bet:
    1. 5 gold coins in a single bet
    2. 100 gold coins in 20 consecutive bets
     
  8. pydragons

    pydragons Padavan

    Ty. I had to google for more explanations.
     
  9. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    But is it worth it to gather up chests for 50+ days, just for that fairy? My friend got it recently, after opening every daily chest he laid his hands on. So, you either get lucky opening one each time you log in, or you try to force it with trakilaki's method.
     
  10. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    This is actually rather funny. This is called the Gambler's Fallacy. Opening 50 at one time does not make it anymore likely that you will get it as compared to opening 1 a day for 50 days. The only difference is that of perception. The probability does not chnge. If you flip a coin 10 times in a row and get heads every time, the chance of getting heads next is still 50/50. If the chances of getting the dimond is 1/100, opening 100 boxes does not guarentee that the dimond will drop, nor does it say that you can't get the dimond 2x in only 20 boxes. If you need the items found in daily chests, there is no mathamatical reason to save them. It is only a matter of perception.
     
  11. rusher

    rusher Someday Author

    You can daily with every character(!?) Um. so I have to create all charactes already I guess :p - Hmm too bad I want to choose the name when I start to play and not before, collecting 50 days of dailies :(

    Can you trade that fairy to your main character then?
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2015
  12. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Nope. Currently, there's no way of trading anything from one of your characters to another one of your own (or to one of another person, for that matter).
     
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  13. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    How I got the 4 items and many many others.

    This might be luck but have not heard of a fail yet. (So if it fails don't tell me :) )

    Collect all three items and then toss them. With in a week to 2 weeks you will get a diamond.
     
  14. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Yeah, then see how you never get the pollen again xD.
     
  15. rjrichards

    rjrichards Forum Pro

    I did the very same thingand just a fewdays later the diamond showed up. Now I think I'm waiting on the stick...
     
  16. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    lol,is why i deleted my other post,said it was more for inventory space.
    but u r better off opening dailies daily,and and take that 2-3 spaces hit in inventory.u just might need something in there.
    ask yourself this, "do i want to sparkle or don't i want to sparkle?
    when you get a mount,all u have from fairy is the sparkle.and more lag lol.:D:D
     
  17. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    This is what my assumption is...

    You will get the first three items fairly easy (doesn't matter which 3 items it is, but any 3 items) and the fourth item is, well is going to take a long time for you to find.

    It is not the diamond which is rare. It is the fourth item.

    Try this, delete the hair.
    Now if you were waiting for the diamond, you will find the diamond quite easily.
    Next, you will have to wait a quite a while to get the hair.
     
  18. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I'm going to just start yelling "Gambler's Fallacy" every time someone says something that is only based on perception and not real probability/math.

    GAMBLER'S FALLACY
     
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  19. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    Well, you may be correct. But do the math here:

    I started collecting these in January (I started playing in November, but didn't know that these items are valuable, so was tossing them for a while ;)

    By mid February, all four of my characters got 3 each:
    Knight: Gem, Pollen Stick
    Ranger: Gem, Hair, Pollen
    SW: Hair, Pollen, Stick
    SM: Gem, Pollen, Hair

    Now, I have been waiting for the fourth item for more than two months and none of the characters got it.
    How would you explain it?

    Also, remember you are assuming the fact getting any one of the items have the same probability. But, how do you know that it was coded that way?
    It is very possible to code different probabilities to get items considering what you already have in your inventory.

    For a fact, there was a patch note which said, depending on what you already have, you have a higher chance of looting something better. So, that alters the drop chances depending on what you have equipped.
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2015
  20. DesertKoala

    DesertKoala Forum Pro

    Scroll back up in this thread to Bargain's first comment. That is 100% correct and spot on. Don't waste your inventory space until you have the Diamond. The purpose of the fairy combine quest is to put added pressure on your inventory so you feel a greater need to expand your locker and bags. That's all it it really is. So just wait till you get the diamond and then it will all fall into place rapidly. I like the fairy sparkle but it certainly wouldn't come at a higher priority over combining, emmm, Dragan Set tiers in an Event.
     
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